Ive got 3 pairs of vintage converse from a fan – all from the 80s and made in the US – and I brought my 1-2 year old pair of low-top converse as well. I trample the slave wearing all 4 pairs one after another. I start with the bright orange high-tops, followed by the red mid-tops and the beige mid-tops. For the finish I use my red low-tops. I have to say you notice the better quality of the original us-made converse – although the newer ones are also very comfortable to wear for trampling – if it makes a difference for the slave?!